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		<title>By: Jennifer Deseo</title>
		<link>http://www.thehyperlocalist.com/2010/01/20/so-your-hyperlocal-news-website-now-what/comment-page-1/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Deseo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 19:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for finding my blog, Steve.

I think you and I were in similar boats, though yours had more financial buoyancy than mine. Like you, my goal was to create a reliable news source for a community that got little coverage in the mainstream media. The idea of making money at it came only later, but at that point, I was so entrenched in generating copy that marketing fell to the wayside.

My role with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.silverspringpenguin.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Silver Spring Penguin&lt;/a&gt; was full time. I had no other job than to attend meetings and events, write up stories, interact with readers, etc. There was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thehyperlocalist.com/2010/01/22/engineering-the-happy-medium/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;no time&lt;/a&gt; for a paying gig or freelance projects. Hence, my shit brokeness. 

I&#039;ll correct the post above to reflect your state of non-shit brokeness. Also, I welcome you to share your experiences as a hyperlocal journalist on this site, whether as a commentor or a contributing author.

Thanks again, and best wishes to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for finding my blog, Steve.</p>
<p>I think you and I were in similar boats, though yours had more financial buoyancy than mine. Like you, my goal was to create a reliable news source for a community that got little coverage in the mainstream media. The idea of making money at it came only later, but at that point, I was so entrenched in generating copy that marketing fell to the wayside.</p>
<p>My role with <a href="http://www.silverspringpenguin.com" rel="nofollow">The Silver Spring Penguin</a> was full time. I had no other job than to attend meetings and events, write up stories, interact with readers, etc. There was <a href="http://www.thehyperlocalist.com/2010/01/22/engineering-the-happy-medium/" rel="nofollow">no time</a> for a paying gig or freelance projects. Hence, my shit brokeness. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll correct the post above to reflect your state of non-shit brokeness. Also, I welcome you to share your experiences as a hyperlocal journalist on this site, whether as a commentor or a contributing author.</p>
<p>Thanks again, and best wishes to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Thurston</title>
		<link>http://www.thehyperlocalist.com/2010/01/20/so-your-hyperlocal-news-website-now-what/comment-page-1/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Thurston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 10:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Add to that.&quot;  
Steve Thurston regrets the error...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Add to that.&#8221;<br />
Steve Thurston regrets the error&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Thurston</title>
		<link>http://www.thehyperlocalist.com/2010/01/20/so-your-hyperlocal-news-website-now-what/comment-page-1/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Thurston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 10:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Jennifer,

I just thought I&#039;d let you know that I&#039;m not shit broke!  Doing fine, actually. I never really intended to make money at the blog.  My main focus when I started was two-fold: 1, cover some stuff that the papers that cover Arlington were not covering, and 2, try my hand at new/different story telling methods.  Making money was the thing I thought about only after awhile.  I, like you, love community journalism (it&#039;s what I teach at Montgomery College), and the software finally came along that allowed me to do it cheaply.  

I had published a print version in 2003/04 before I&#039;d even really heard of blogging (I knew what it was, but why I didn&#039;t think to go online, I don&#039;t know).  That one, believe it or not, almost made money, but sheesh what a lot of work.  I&#039;d still be writing that one if I&#039;d had more help or more time. 

Time is the issue for me, as I think it is for many local bloggers.  The costs for distribution are so low, we can start these ventures easily; it&#039;s finding the time to go to events, report, write, edit photos, and post all of it that makes it hard for a person with full-time jobs and kids, and committments to do this.

Ad to that sales calls and developing an actual business plan, and suddenly you can&#039;t make it work. 

That&#039;s where I am.  Thanks for mentioning me on your site.

Meliora (toward better things),

Steve Thurston
buckinghamheraldtrib.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Jennifer,</p>
<p>I just thought I&#8217;d let you know that I&#8217;m not shit broke!  Doing fine, actually. I never really intended to make money at the blog.  My main focus when I started was two-fold: 1, cover some stuff that the papers that cover Arlington were not covering, and 2, try my hand at new/different story telling methods.  Making money was the thing I thought about only after awhile.  I, like you, love community journalism (it&#8217;s what I teach at Montgomery College), and the software finally came along that allowed me to do it cheaply.  </p>
<p>I had published a print version in 2003/04 before I&#8217;d even really heard of blogging (I knew what it was, but why I didn&#8217;t think to go online, I don&#8217;t know).  That one, believe it or not, almost made money, but sheesh what a lot of work.  I&#8217;d still be writing that one if I&#8217;d had more help or more time. </p>
<p>Time is the issue for me, as I think it is for many local bloggers.  The costs for distribution are so low, we can start these ventures easily; it&#8217;s finding the time to go to events, report, write, edit photos, and post all of it that makes it hard for a person with full-time jobs and kids, and committments to do this.</p>
<p>Ad to that sales calls and developing an actual business plan, and suddenly you can&#8217;t make it work. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s where I am.  Thanks for mentioning me on your site.</p>
<p>Meliora (toward better things),</p>
<p>Steve Thurston<br />
buckinghamheraldtrib.com</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Deseo</title>
		<link>http://www.thehyperlocalist.com/2010/01/20/so-your-hyperlocal-news-website-now-what/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Deseo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 03:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for finding my blog, Bruce. You wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;I find it difficult to stop being a journalist to be an entrepreneur. Everyone can say it’s necessary, but a journalist isn’t trained to STOP reporting and writing.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I was in the same boat. It&#039;s why &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.silverspringpenguin.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my publication&lt;/a&gt; succeeded as a news source and failed miserably as a business. If there&#039;s a happy medium between journalist and entrepreneur, I&#039;ve yet to find it. Maybe it doesn&#039;t exist. Maybe it does.

It&#039;s also possible that a viable business model requires two people: one to be a journalist, the other to be the publisher (the entrepreneur). This blog will explore that option, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for finding my blog, Bruce. You wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I find it difficult to stop being a journalist to be an entrepreneur. Everyone can say it’s necessary, but a journalist isn’t trained to STOP reporting and writing.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I was in the same boat. It&#8217;s why <a href="http://www.silverspringpenguin.com" rel="nofollow">my publication</a> succeeded as a news source and failed miserably as a business. If there&#8217;s a happy medium between journalist and entrepreneur, I&#8217;ve yet to find it. Maybe it doesn&#8217;t exist. Maybe it does.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also possible that a viable business model requires two people: one to be a journalist, the other to be the publisher (the entrepreneur). This blog will explore that option, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Ritchie</title>
		<link>http://www.thehyperlocalist.com/2010/01/20/so-your-hyperlocal-news-website-now-what/comment-page-1/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Ritchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 02:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck. I found your posting through http://newsinnovation.com/schedule/ . I hope the answers that you and others find will be shared. I find it difficult to stop being a journalist to be an entrepreneur. Everyone can say it&#039;s necessary, but a journalist isn&#039;t trained to STOP reporting and writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck. I found your posting through <a href="http://newsinnovation.com/schedule/" rel="nofollow">http://newsinnovation.com/schedule/</a> . I hope the answers that you and others find will be shared. I find it difficult to stop being a journalist to be an entrepreneur. Everyone can say it&#8217;s necessary, but a journalist isn&#8217;t trained to STOP reporting and writing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Deseo</title>
		<link>http://www.thehyperlocalist.com/2010/01/20/so-your-hyperlocal-news-website-now-what/comment-page-1/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Deseo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comment, Dan. I don&#039;t mean to dissuade readers from entering hyperlocal reporting, but I do want them to realize that sustainability is a big issue, even for non-profit or volunteer organizations.

My time as Penguin editor was very fulfilling, but it didn&#039;t put food on the table. It wasn&#039;t set up for sustainability. But I&#039;ll be ready for my next hyperlocal venture, whatever that will be.

Best of luck with your podcast! Please keep me posted on how that works out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment, Dan. I don&#8217;t mean to dissuade readers from entering hyperlocal reporting, but I do want them to realize that sustainability is a big issue, even for non-profit or volunteer organizations.</p>
<p>My time as Penguin editor was very fulfilling, but it didn&#8217;t put food on the table. It wasn&#8217;t set up for sustainability. But I&#8217;ll be ready for my next hyperlocal venture, whatever that will be.</p>
<p>Best of luck with your podcast! Please keep me posted on how that works out.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Hugo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Hugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trying hyperlocal media in my city (Sunnyvale, CA), starting with podcast interviews and moving to real radio (part 15 low-power AM and internet simulcast).  Your tale gives me pause, to say the least.  Will be reading with great interest...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trying hyperlocal media in my city (Sunnyvale, CA), starting with podcast interviews and moving to real radio (part 15 low-power AM and internet simulcast).  Your tale gives me pause, to say the least.  Will be reading with great interest&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Laryssa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laryssa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting to me how the blogging started out as a hobby for you and that everyone kind of fell apart when the possibility of making money came into the picture. Sometimes I kind of long for the early days of Too Shy to Stop, when the site looked like crap, and I was just blogging for myself and for entertainment purposes. The moment I tried to make something of it was the moment that I put a lot of pressure on myself too. Though I&#039;m still trying to figure out that business model, I have to constantly remind myself why I do this shit in the first place - for the love of it. I look forward to more posts!

&lt;em&gt;Editor&#039;s note: Avarice is the root of all evil, but at least it pays the rent! -- JD (Jan 21, 2010)&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting to me how the blogging started out as a hobby for you and that everyone kind of fell apart when the possibility of making money came into the picture. Sometimes I kind of long for the early days of Too Shy to Stop, when the site looked like crap, and I was just blogging for myself and for entertainment purposes. The moment I tried to make something of it was the moment that I put a lot of pressure on myself too. Though I&#8217;m still trying to figure out that business model, I have to constantly remind myself why I do this shit in the first place &#8211; for the love of it. I look forward to more posts!</p>
<p><em>Editor&#8217;s note: Avarice is the root of all evil, but at least it pays the rent! &#8212; JD (Jan 21, 2010)</em></p>
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		<title>By: Punk Walrus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Punk Walrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m rootin&#039; for ya!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m rootin&#8217; for ya!</p>
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		<title>By: Lisatella</title>
		<link>http://www.thehyperlocalist.com/2010/01/20/so-your-hyperlocal-news-website-now-what/comment-page-1/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisatella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to see you writing, in whatever way or shape it appears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see you writing, in whatever way or shape it appears.</p>
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